desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby gneeworks » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:13 pm

Hi,

I was just wondering if anyone had a chance to try out the LX dual side-by-side + VESA adaptor kit setup with a Cintiq 24HD, or has Ergotron staff been able to test this configuration at all? ? I am also in the market for a monitor arm for my Cintiq 24HD and have done extensive research and picked out a few possible options, but I was curious as to see if this worked for anyone.
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby ErgoMichelle » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:54 am

No conclusion yet from Ergotron's testing. Should have some info this week or by early next week. Stay tuned.
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby steveA » Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:00 pm

Good News! Looks like this is a solution (with some caveats).

One can combine the LX Side-by-Side Arm (45-245-026) with our VESA Bracket Adapter (97-759) to hold a monitor weighing up to 40 lbs / 18.2 kg when fitted together properly.

Here are some things to note:
    1) We haven't tested with a Wacom 24HD per se, but instead used weights to mimic the load. Once we actually try a 24HD, we'll be able verify which fasteners one needs and absolutely verify performance.
    2) The solution does not work "out of the box." At this point you'll either need to make a trip to the hardware store to get four M5 screws with locking nuts, or use a M6 tap to thread holes on the LX arms' VESA plates. The Adapter Kit includes lots of hardware (like spacers, long M4 screws, M6 screws), which will come in handy. Once we threaded the plate holes, everything we needed was in the kit (but remember, we didn't attach to 24HD so not 100% sure if other fasteners wouldn't be needed).
    3) You'll need a sturdy desk surface. This solution applies a lot of torque force at the base. Using the Grommet Mount option rather than the Desk Clamp could help a bit if you're unsure of your desk's strength.
    4) This isn't an "official" Ergotron solution yet. Think of it as a DIY project. My guess is Ergotron will likely make some minor modifications to kits so it can work "out of the box," and that it will go through a battery of testing to ensure there isn't some unforeseen complication.

I don't see any reason not to do it (it worked better than I expected when I tried it) but that's not the same as Ergotron guaranteeing it, meaning this is still to be considered at your own risk. I'll post some pictures in the next few days so you get a visual of the construction. If anyone tries it, please report back and share experience. I'll try to answer any questions for installation.
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby steveA » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:31 am

Here are some images of the configuration. You'll see two 400 mm rails connecting the plates of the LX arms; eight M6 screws fasten the rails to the plates, with holes in the plates being threaded (the one modification we made; could have used M5 screws and locking nuts instead). The weights are connected to the rails via a 100 x 100 mm hole pattern formed on the inside of the rails; we used long M4 x 25 mm screws from the kit to connect to the weights. With the 24HD, one would need to attach it through holes forming a 200 x 100 mm pattern by the rails, which means only four M6 or M5 screws would connect the rails on the outside of the plates; the M4 screws would connect through the holes on the inside of the arm plates, through holes in the rails, and threading into the monitor.

The arms can handle this configuration--in terms of warranty, there's nothing here that would prevent their intended performance over the course of 5 years. The "at your own risk" warning comes from the fact that this is being customized by you, the end user, to make it hold a display that might cost $2,500 or more. And since Ergotron can't control the modification you make, in the event that something happened to the display, the responsibility would be yours. That said, in my opinion the risk is pretty low. It looks like Ergotron is in the process of making changes to product so that this will be a standard configuration--not sure of timeline but these changes are fairly simple so it shouldn't be too long.

BTW: Thanks to creatix86 for germinating the idea!
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby gorgaar » Sat May 10, 2014 11:52 am

steveA wrote:It looks like Ergotron is in the process of making changes to product so that this will be a standard configuration--not sure of timeline but these changes are fairly simple so it shouldn't be too long.


Hello!

Just out of interest, did Ergotron ever finalize the LX Side-by-Side Arm solution for the Cintiq 24HD that was discussed above?

Thank you very much!
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby steveA » Thu May 15, 2014 4:41 pm

No, and I'm really bummed about it. It's so frustrating because as a product design, it is so close to being finished--basically no extra tooling or R&D--just put the parts together, update the manual and voila! But I don't set priorities so the wait continues.

I will continue to pester the folks that do set priorities.
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby steveA » Thu May 15, 2014 4:48 pm

Here are some pictures of this custom configuration attached to the Wacom 24HD. Minor modifications were made to the VESA brackets that connect the two pivots (threaded outside holes of the arms' VESA plates) but otherwise everything came straight out of the boxes... As stated previously, the guarantee caveats still apply until this becomes and official Ergotron solution.
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby gorgaar » Sun May 18, 2014 7:29 pm

Thank you very much for the update with pictures!

Even if still not official yet, it definitely looks like an awesome solution. Hope it gets the blessing of a standard Ergotron-configuration eventually!
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby Phigster » Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:16 pm

I just had to drop in on this thread to say thanks to everyone involved in the seeding, configuring and testing of this set-up.

I'm now using this configuration in my home office (with M5 bolts and locking nuts rather than using the M6 tap). I chose it for the space savings, but the comfort of this setup is a serious improvement and moving the screen is much more natural.

It really is a great!

Many Thanks

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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby astrocom » Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:30 am

steveA, thanks for setting this up.

I have two LX Desk Mounts. Will it work to support the 24HD if I stack the two arms onto one mount? Logically it could work but I am not sure because the two arms would be one on top of the other and not stacked on the same level like in the Side by Side Arm. Is there going to be any weight imbalance or weight distribution problem?

I am considering getting the 24HD but my decision hinges on whether I could combine my two LX arms to support the 24HD.
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby steveA » Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:41 am

Sorry for the late reply. I really don't know if it would work. We'd need to test it for sure before making a determination. A couple things come to mind: It's possible that with the arms mounted at different heights, there may be some weird imbalance that might throw it off, making it tend to lilt one way or another. But the bigger concern is the base: The base on the LX Side-by-Side Arm is larger, providing more support. While you can stack two arms on the base of the single LX LCD Arm to make a dual configuration, I'd be very hesitant to recommend putting so much weight on it--there's a big difference between attaching two ~8 lbs LED monitors and the behemoth 35 lbs Wacom.
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby moodybic » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:59 pm

Hello, I've been very interested in the solution discussed here and it's been almost a year since I followed this thread now!
I do believe the setting you came up with would be one truly great solution for the owners of a 24HD Cintiq.
Are there any news from Ergotron as for an official release ?
Thank you a lot!
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby Stefen10 » Tue May 05, 2015 12:00 am

I have bought a better desk mount recently.
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby moodybic » Tue May 05, 2015 12:45 am

Can you specify?
How is it better? it supports the 24hd?
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby sect » Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:44 pm

I'd love to test or see a test of this being used for the new 27QHD Cintiq. The options are quite limited and I don't think having the tablet resting on a surface/attached to a singular arm would work for me.
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby addseo1115 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:23 am

Thank you very much. :)
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby klhsx » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:19 pm

I am wondering if with a dual are configuration is it possible to rotate the cintiq into portrait mode. I can't imagine that it works. Has anyone tried this?

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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby Featherbeard » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:32 pm

Hello there! I know this is an old thread but does anyone have any updated information on a solution for a 24hd? I would absolutely love to get that beast off my desk and onto a support arm. :)

Thanks!
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby ErgoJustin » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:34 am

Hi Featherbeard,

Looking through Ergotron's compatibility finder, the following products should work with your Cintiq 24HD.

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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby moodybic » Sat Dec 05, 2015 7:56 am

klhsx wrote:I am wondering if with a dual are configuration is it possible to rotate the cintiq into portrait mode. I can't imagine that it works. Has anyone tried this?

Thanks


I'm very curious about this particular aspect too. I made a thorough search online but with no success.
Would it be possible to have an answer from Ergotron as to whether or not the Cintiq would move smoothly and in various angles (such as in portrait mode) with the Dual configuration, please?
Thanks!
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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby ErgoJustin » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:53 am

Hi moodybic-

This is a great question, and unfortunately we cannot advise for certain whether it would work or not because it's never been tested. The main problem that exists in your proposed setup is the range of motion & mechanics with switching the monitor from landscape to portrait view and back. But again, it hasn't been tested and thus, we cannot say whether or not it would work.

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Re: desk mount for cintiq 24hd?

Postby lcintiq » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:07 pm

Hey !

Amazing post about the Cintiq 24... anyone try out the last idea? using the Ergotron 45-245-026?
Lost the rotation using this system?

Or Ergotron has another awesome idea to use in this model?
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